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Posted on: February 16, 2012 11:26 pm

Night Court: Duke, FSU with late comeback wins

By Jeff Goodman

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Here’s everything you need to know about Thursday’s slate of college basketball games …

Game of the day: N.C. State had Duke beaten at Cameron -- and it would have been just the signature win that could have gotten the Wolfpack into the NCAA tournament. Mark Gottfried's team was up 20 points with less than 12 minutes remaining, but the Blue Devils stormed back and came away with a 78-73 victory. Seth Curry finished with a career-high 26 points -- including 21 in the second half -- as Duke remained tied with North Carolina and Florida State for first place in the ACC. 

Shot of the day: Michael Snaer, he of the game-winner to beat Duke in Durham, buried another 3-pointer -- this time with 2.6 seconds left that rescued Florida State. It gave the 'Noles a 48-47 win over Virginia Tech in Tallahassee. It was also the eighth consecutive loss for the Hokies against FSU on the road. 

Win to brag about: Lehigh handed Bucknell its first Patriot league setback of the season and also snapped the Bison's 20-game conference winning streak. Mountain Hawks star C.J. McCollum buried the game-winning 3-pointer with 0.8 seconds left in the game that snapped a four-game losing skid against Bucknell and also closed the gap in league play. Lehigh is now 8-3 in the league, two games behind Bucknell. 

Loss to hide from: Ole Miss didn't just lose. The Rebels got smoked -- in Oxford by Vanderbilt. The final score was 102-76 and it wasn't even that close. 

Player who deserves improper benefits: Vanderbilt's Jeffery Taylor - The athletic senior wing is better-known for his defense, but Taylor erupted for 23 points and grabbed five boards -- in the first half. The Commodores crushed Ole Miss so badly that Taylor didn't need to do much of anything in the second half. Taylor finished with 28 points and nine boards -- he was 10-of-15 from the field and 5-of-6 from beyond the arc. 

Player(s) who does not deserve improper benefits: We're splitting this honor three ways for this one. Erick Green, Dorenzo Hudson and Robert Brown each went 0-for-2 from the charity stripe in the final 2:11 of Virginia Tech's loss to Florida State. 

Numbers don’t lie:

8: That's how many "and-ones" that Michigan State had against Wisconsin tonight. That's a ridiculously high number. 

3-10: Virginia Tech shot 3-of-10 from the charity stripe in the final 2:10 of the loss to FSU. 

18: Robert Morris racked up 18 steals in its 69-40 rout over Bryant. 

18 &15: Points and rebounds put up by North Texas freshman Tony Mitchell in a rout over Louisiana-Monroe. 

Other notable results:

Michigan State had little problems with Wisconsin in East Lansing. Draymond Green finished with 20 points and 10 boards as Sparty won its seventh straight against the Badgers at the Breslin Center. 

Vandy smacked Ole Miss on the road, 102-76. The Commodores needed this one, having dropped three of their last four. 

West Virginia got a much-needed victory, 66-48, on the road against Pittsburgh. The Mountaineers had lost five of their past six to go from a secure NCAA tournament team to one in danger of heading into NIT territory. 

Texas Pan-American coach Ryan Marks got his 10th victory of the season and improved to 4-2 in Great West play with a home win over NJIT. 

San Diego coach Bill Grier has three freshmen in the starting lineup and the Toreros have made progress this season. USD needed overtime to take care of Portland, improving to 11-15 overall and 6-8 in WCC play. 


Mount St. Mary's interim coach Matt Henry, filling in for Robert Burke (administrative leave), got the win after a 77-63 victory against FDU. 

Duke won its 14th straight at Cameron against N.C. State. The last loss came on Jan. 18, 1995. 

West Virginia's Kevin Jones had yet another double-double with 16 points and 13 boards in the road win against Pittsburgh. 

On tap: 

It's Friday. That means Ivy league hoops is the focus -- along with a couple of BracketBuster games. 

1) Northern Iowa at VCU - Shaka Smart and the Rams may have lost out on a chance for an at-large bid with the setback to George Mason the other night. 

2) Valparaiso at Loyola Marymount - LMU is coming off a big road win at Saint Mary's. 

3) Harvard at Brown -The Crimson can't afford another loss or at-large chances are history. 

4) Yale at Dartmouth - James Jones' team is one game back from the Crimson. 

5) Cornell at Penn - The Quakers are 5-2 in Ivy league play, just a game back in the loss column from Harvard. 

Posted on: January 23, 2012 10:30 am
Edited on: January 23, 2012 4:03 pm

Podcast: Seth Davis hates the Giants so, so much

By Matt Norlander

One of, if not the biggest, names in college basketball sportswriting, Seth Davis, is back on the program. All that great football overshadowed what transpired in hoops, so we're here so you can hear all about it.

What were the biggest results? What of Fab Melo not playing at Syracuse? Why can't we focus on the positive with Murray State? And why on earth does Seth root for the Redskins? All extremely important topics that are covered in the Monday edition. It's one of our best this season, so get to clicking. And if you'd like to read Seth's recent work, head on over here and check out his columns, plus the fantastic annual Hoop Thoughts editorial.

  • From the beginning: We recorded this last night, so we start with our reactions to the football games. How could we not start with that? Unfortunately, it devolves into Redskins talk pretty quickly.
  • 2:43: Outside of Syracuse and Murray State's games, what was the most meaningful result from Saturday or Sunday?
  • 8:07: Syracuse. Let's discuss the Orange and what they are, the Fab Melo situation, and how good they really are. Seth has his doubts, and I think it's fair -- even though I still want to believe this team has a very good chance at this year's Final Four.
  • 14:02: So far ... what do we make of this basketball season? Has it been a good one?
  • 17:30: Seth and I deviate from the hoops talk to lament how great we are and how awful our lives become when people request to talk to us on the radio. I do this after having asked Seth to come on my podcast. It's all so insufferable in its meta existence.
  • 20:17: Let's talk about Murray State, the great story, not Murray State, the when-will-they-lose story. Seth takes a second to stroke Parrish's ego as well.
  • 28:00: Seth and I pick our fringe bubble teams that we believe will play themselves into the field. We also take the inverse: good teams likely to play themselves into the NIT.
  • 32:10: Chip Kelly to Oregon almost happened, but this doesn't really much happen in college hoops -- that hot coach with the sexy scheme who can bring a new flair to the pros. Why not?

Again, I thank you for taking the time to listen to the podcast--whenever you can. I ask that you, if you like what we're doing here, encourage like-minded hoopheads to subscribe in Tunes as well. Guests like Jay Bilas, Seth Davis, they're the guys who make me sound better and make the podcast worthwhile. The other guys? Gary Parrish and Jeff Goodman, they really make it entertaining, and of course you can count on our trio show each Wednesday. The RSS feed is another way to keep the podcasts coming to you ASAP. We've got a Zune download link as well.

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Posted on: January 21, 2012 6:21 pm

Video: Incredible finish to Florida State-Duke

By Matt Norlander


The past few minutes have felt like the first weekend in March. Tennessee pulled out a great, close home win over UConn; Kansas eked out a 69-66 win at Texas; and then you have this, Florida State's second huge win on a Saturday. Only this time, it came on the road. Austin Rivers took the ball to the hoop, tied the game, then Michael Snaer sent the dagger in as time expired, most definitely vaulting FSU into the polls come Monday morning -- and permanently getting them into the NCAA tournament conversation.

FSU controlled most of this game. It deserved the win -- and now the ACC is a definite three-team race. Some Saturday we've had so far.

We should have more reaction from FSU soon. 

Posted on: January 18, 2012 12:24 am
Edited on: January 18, 2012 9:23 am

Night Court: Western Carolina wins by ... 102?!

Trey Burke had 20 points, including the game-winning assist, to lead Michigan to a 60-59 win over Michigan St. (US Presswire)

By Jeff Borzello

Here’s everything you need to know about Tuesday’s slate of college basketball games …

Game of the day: Michigan struggled defensively for much of the second half, but the Wolverines came up big down the stretch to hold on to a 60-59 victory over Michigan State. Stu Douglass made the game-winning layup with 36.5 seconds left, off a terrific pass from Trey Burke. Draymond Green missed a potential game-winning shot and tip-in on the Spartans’ final possession. Burke led the way with 20 points.

Win to brag about: Beating Maryland in itself isn’t that impressive, but Florida State continues to turn it around after an embarrassing loss to Clemson two weeks ago. The Seminoles used a 21-3 run in the second half to dispatch of the Terrapins, 84-70. For a team that has the reputation of being offensively inept, Florida State has now scored at least 84 points in three of its last five games. Ian Miller and Okaro White combined for 31 points off the bench.

Loss to hide from: I have no clue how Toccoa Falls does against its usual competition (it's 3-6), but it apparently can’t handle Division-I opposition. Western Carolina had nine guys score in double figures, defeating the Eagles, 141-39. The Catamounts outrebounded Toccoa Falls 62-16, and only three players did not reach double-figures in scoring.

Player who deserves improper benefits: Anthony Davis has had several impressive performances this season, but Tuesday’s game took the cake. The Kentucky freshman had 27 points, 14 rebounds and seven blocks to lead the Wildcats to an 86-63 win over Arkansas. Moreover, he broke the school’s single-season record for blocks – with 12 games left in the regular season.

Player(s) who does not deserve improper benefits: Texas Tech’s Jordan Tolbert has been one of the most underrated freshmen in the country this season, but Tuesday didn’t show that. Tolbert went just 1-for-10 from the field and turned it over five times before fouling out. The Red Raiders lost to Oklahoma, 64-55.

Numbers don’t lie:

  • 3: After losing 18 of 21 in the rivalry, Michigan has now defeated Michigan State three straight times.
  • 102: The margin in Western Carolina’s win over Toccoa Falls was the third-largest in Division-I history.
  • 15: It’s been 15 years since an SEC player had 27 points, 14 boards and seven blocks in a game. Anthony Davis did it tonight.

Three other notable results:

  1. With first place in the Big South on the line, UNC-Asheville improved to 8-0 with a victory over second-place Coastal Carolina. J.P. Primm had 23 points, helping UNCA overcome six guys scoring in double-figures for Coastal.
  2. Purdue bounced back from last week’s loss to Wisconsin with a 75-68 win over Iowa. The Boilermakers overcame a five-point halftime deficit.
  3. Jason Clark scored 31 points despite going just 4-for-9 from the free-throw line, leading Georgetown to an 83-75 road win at DePaul.


  • The lone overtime game on Tuesday was between LSU and Auburn. Auburn’s Varez Ward sent it into an extra session with a 3-pointer with 0.2 seconds left, but LSU dominated the overtime for a 65-58 win.
  • Boise State freshman Anthony Drmic had a chance to make a name for himself early in Mountain West play, but he shot just 1-for-8 from the field in a 66-55 loss to Colorado State.
  • North Dakota State, currently 6-2 in Summit League play, went into North Dakota – a team with three D-I wins this season – and lost, 59-54.
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Posted on: January 16, 2012 11:41 am
Edited on: January 16, 2012 12:04 pm

Podcast: Why does UNC's 33-point loss matter?

By Matt Norlander

If a team gets beatdown like UNC did at Florida State Saturday, does it mean they won't win the title? Well, nobody's ever lost by 33 and gone on to cut down nets. In fact, no one's ever lost by more than 27 in a season and gone on to win it all.

CBSSports.com recruiting savant and bro supreme Jeff Borzello calls in from the Hoop Hall Classic to discuss Carolina's chances of bucking that trend, as well as Roy Williams taking his team off the floor before that game was over. Bro-zello and I also get into the Ryan Boatright situation at UConn -- he's sitting out of games again, pending NCAA review of his eligibility -- as well as a look ahead to tonight's huge game: Baylor at Kansas.

Here it is:
  • From the beginning: Borzello's watching the best high school tournament of the season, the Hoop Hall Classic, up in Springfield, Mass. For people that follow this stuff, or want more, he runs down the essentials.
  • 7:13: It's on to UNC. That huge loss. No team's ever loss by more than 27 points has gone on to win a title that season. Why should UNC be any different?
  • 13:40: Roy Williams complied with Leonard Hamilton's suggestion of getting UNC's coaches and guys sitting on the bench off the floor before the storm. But the walk-ons on the court? Left for dead. Williams deflects talk from the loss. Brilliant.
  • 16:24: Ryan Boatright is again ineligible. He sits and waits while his situation is reviewed. Why's this happening right now and what's the crux of the problem?
  • 20:21: The nation's most underrated great player? Arnett Moultrie.
  • 23:24: Advance of Baylor at Kansas, which amounts to a game that could have some more big-picture reaction if Baylor smothers the 'Hawks.
  • 26:42: Some gib-gab to finish up. Insanity workouts, Borzello trying to drop 20 pounds in two months, the NFL playoffs, 30-person birthday parties at german restaurants.

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Posted on: January 14, 2012 5:09 pm
Edited on: January 14, 2012 5:17 pm

Guess who loses on the road? Almost everybody

By Gary Parrish

My colleague Jeff Borzello wrote earlier about the difficulty of winning away games because he knew we were about to start a Saturday featuring nine ranked teams playing unranked teams on the road, and we all knew at least one of them (and probably more) would take a loss.

How'd we know, you ask?

Because it happens every weekend.

Ranked teams lose to unranked teams on the road with great regularity. It's as much a part of the sport as recruiting scandals and Dick Vitale. And though I realize everybody knows this and basicaly accepts it as a fact of life, I do wonder if most fans truly understand just how difficult it is to win away games.

The proof is in the details.

Consider that the four Final Four participants (Connecticut, Butler, Kentucky and VCU) combined to go 23-24 in true road games last season, and that the 2010 national champion (Duke) finished 5-5 in true road games. Translation: Even the best often struggle away from home, and only elite power-conference schools (North Carolina in 2009 comes to mind) regularly avoid the upsets most cannot.

So fans of No. 18 Kansas State can be upset with that loss at unranked Oklahoma. And fans of No. 13 Michigan can be upset with that loss at unranked Iowa. And fans of No. 7 Michigan State can be upset with that loss at unranked Northwestern. And fans of No. 3 North Carolina can be upset with that loss at unranked Florida State (especially since it was so lopsided). They're all losses and fans hate to lose. So I understand. But the reality is that these types of losses, in this sport, just kinda happen. Sometimes, sure, they represent a sign that a team might be as overrated as the cliched chant suggests. But in most cases, honestly, it's just the price you pay for going on the road.
Posted on: January 14, 2012 4:46 pm
Edited on: January 14, 2012 4:53 pm

FSU delivers epic, dominating home upset of UNC

By Matt Norlander

This was about as grand of a that-came-out-of-nowhere blowout as you could expect in college basketball. Indeed, Florida State was at home, but home games cannot account for curb-stompings like this, not when FSU’s best prior win to this was against Virginia Tech earlier this week — and Tech isn’t a tournament team. You want the next-best in line on FSU’s resume? I’ll let you pick. UMass, Loyola Marymount, Auburn.

Deividas Dulkys had the game of his life in what could amount to one of the most surprising results of this season. (AP)

Yeah, that’s what Leonard Hamilton’s group had proven so far this season. Then the ’Noles came out and power-washed North Carolina to death, 90-57. As of this post's publishing, there are still co-eds cluttered about the floor at the Donald L. Tucker Center after the monsoon of a court-storm. Few had Florida State winning. Not even Tim Tebow had FSU by 33 points.

Florida State, which is offensively challenged in a lot of ways, averages 70 points per game, or at least it did before today. It went against so many of the terrible, slow, frustrating offensive principles it's played badly for up until now. So many facets to this beatdown weren’t foreseeable. In fact, I think it will go down as one of the five most surprising results of the season — because I don’t think UNC loses another game by double digits the rest of the way and I'm still not sure, come mid-March, FSU is an NCAA tournament team.

Among the game's best/surprising storylines, consider the biggest performance, which came from FSU senior guard Deividas Dulkys, who (averaging six points per game) was playing some of the worst basketball of his career heading into this one. He was 5-for-29 from deep in his last nine games. He scored 32 points in that run. He had 32 today! He was 8-of-10 from 3-point range and paced Florida State to an offensive performance that, sorry, won’t be duplicated this season by the Seminoles.  

A great job overall by Hamilton’s club, who in one game immediately altered its reputation, earning yet another huge win on its home floor. In the past five years, FSU’s had five wins against highly ranked teams in Tallahassee. They certainly know how to get up for the biggest games.

But they’d never been so good against a team so “great” before. God, I still can’t believe the quit I saw in North Carolina. I tried to lead with FSU because when you beat the third-ranked team at home, I think so much credit should go to the team that whoops and doesn't let up. FSU has ways to go to solidify itself in the at-large discussion, but you can’t knock on the door any harder to get into that room than the way FSU did today.

But UNC's the bigger story nationally, naturally. Its lack of toughness and abundance of carelessness was the most glaring factor to this game. For all the surprise and trend-bucking that took place, North Carolina’s lack of will was, forget out of character, it was out of species. The Heels didn’t fight back. How many loose-ball battles did FSU win? At least 10 by my unofficial eye count. UNC merely trailed by eight at the half, then decided to slow their chase once Florida State had a few more shots fall and took a few more rebounds and turned them into points.

There will be some controversy due to Roy Williams getting all of his coaches and players who were on the bench into the locker room with about 15 seconds remaining, but that's not what we should be discussing. First of all, the idea was Hamilton's, so the incoming rush of warm, teenage bodies didn't pin down UNC's team for 10 minutes. Secondly, Williams is a smart, smart man. He really is. He's one of the best at distracting the discussion from a team loss to something more trivial. When UNC got pounced by UNLV in November, the conversation was as much about Williams' anger over UNC fans selling their seats behind the bench as it was about the Heels taking an early surprising loss.

Let's not make it about that. Let's make it about a team seen as a title-contender getting outscored by 33 points. Championship-winning teams do not get beat by 33 points. Right now, UNC isn't a championship team. It wants to be one, it can be one, but it looked unlike anything I'd seen before from a Williams-coached team this afternoon.

Posted on: November 30, 2011 10:04 pm
Edited on: November 30, 2011 10:16 pm

FSU's reluctance to go inside is troubling

By Jeff Borzello

Florida State has the size and half-court defense to be a factor against any opponent in March.

If the Seminoles don’t improve their point guard play and decision-making offensively, though, those two strengths might not matter. Their glaring weaknesses were highlighted throughout Wednesday’s 65-49 loss to Michigan State in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge.

Florida State opened the game by going inside on a consistent basis. Not surprisingly, it worked. Bernard James was getting points inside; Xavier Gibson made plays; Okaro White and Michael Snaer were attacking the basket; and Jeff Peterson was getting into the lane.

Simply put, the Seminoles were having a field day in the lane. Michigan State couldn’t keep them off the glass and were having a ton of trouble guarding drives to the rim and post offense. If not for outstanding play from Spartans guard Brandon Wood, Florida State would have opened up an early lead.

For some reason, the Seminoles just stopped going to the rim – and subsequently went into a six-minute drought. They had six turnovers and three missed jumpers. No one was attacking the rim, and no one was getting the ball on the low block.

The same thing happened during a five-minute drought in the second half. After the Seminoles closed Michigan State’s lead to two, the inside game disappeared again. Florida State took three consecutive 3-pointers and only went to the rim on two occasions.

Everyone knows Florida State isn’t a very good outside shooting team – the Seminoles need to realize their strength is on the inside and then take advantage of it. They had a size and toughness edge on Michigan State, but only used it sporadically.

Moreover, while some of the credit has to go to the Spartans, it’s not like they were forcing Florida State to shoot jumpers. The Seminoles were just settling for perimeter shots instead of working their offense and looking to get attempts inside the paint.

Jeff Peterson and Luke Loucks played well in spurts, but they need to run sets and get the ball to James, Gibson and White around the rim. They need to attack the rim and create open attempts off dump-off passes.

The poor offensive efficiency was not specific to Wednesday's game, either. Against Connecticut, Florida State had 31 points in the paint but also took 19 3-pointers. In the loss to Harvard, the Seminoles had five assists and 16 turnovers.

Part of the problem is not having Ian Miller. The sophomore has the type of talent and quickness to force defenses to collapse on him in the lane and then dish it for easy baskets. He is expected to return in December after the first semester ends. Of course, he turned the ball over far too often last season and didn’t have the type of impact everyone expected. He’ll need to step it up once he becomes eligible.

Look, Florida State is going to make the NCAA tournament because of its defense. The Seminoles are just too tough at the end of the floor.

But if they want to reach the Sweet 16 like they did last year, they need to find a way to replicate what Derwin Kitchen did for them.

Based on tonight, it looks like Leonard Hamilton might actually miss Kitchen more than first-round pick Chris Singleton.

Photo: US Presswire 

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